Disclaimer: those are all my opinions
So after the tsunami that destroyed my beloved icompta v4 interface I'm left with the "new" 5.0.1 version. The big discount is tempting me but I still find some very annoying points I want to illustrate and get some feedback from other people (and the developer too of course!)
Here we go!
0) interface color scheme... I'll skip this because Cyril knows I don't like it and others are talking about it in the forum and the App store. (many are talking about it actually...)
1) Font size: good thing... the terrible interface made of huge elements I was complaining of during the beta time is partly gone. Partly. You can tame the beast to something more usable, but for some unknown reason I'm stuck with a font size of what? 24 points Helvetica? I understand I might becoming an old man but this is SO HUGE BY NO REASON AND TAKING AWAY A LOT OF SCREEN ESTATE. Sorry no mean to shout, just pretending to show how (still) terrible that font size is. I have a 20" monitor so it looks awesomely huge.
During the beta I suggested giving people the choice to set their font size for the transaction list interface (try opening Textedit, write&select a random text then hit Apple + or Apple -...see how cool and easy is to change font size?). No harm for the rest of interface, text just flows. It would let me see *so many more* transactions. If not that, a simple entry in the prefs and deal.
2) Edit panel: although my first complain was with the color scheme (grey on black, seriously?) it's still there. Take that ergonomics! That said it still uses a lot of space. I find myself scrolling a lot during editing while I'd absolutely pay 1 euro more for something I can just tab tab away while I edit in a single screen (yes you can tab now, but I still believe this loooong scrollable list is... too long and unfriendly). What about let me rearrange elements or permanently hide sections I don't use (I'm looking at you Links thing!)
3) Budgets: oh well I have an hate and love relationships with them since the first date during the beta. I so like the new interface (even tho it now scrolls out of my screen...why every thing have to be so gigantastically big on v5?) but I definitely hate the new logic. Anyway I'd kill for two simple buttons (read arrows if you prefer) that would let me jump from a month to another based on the actual selected date so i don't have to open the calendar, scroll and click. Just two easy arrows, left and right. 5 mins of work, I suggest we start a kickstarter project and get it funded
I also miss the past balances list! It let me quickly view if I had been a good boy or not with a deadly simple but perfect list made of green or red dots! I want it back so badly! Seriously this time, it was very useful for me.
4) suggestions: we had a TONS of suggestions and improvement requests on the forum where you Cyril answered with the motto "that will be possible on V5). I think they got lost somewhere in your hd because I don't see many implemented. Like...
· What about a better saved filters management? (grouping, sorting, etc)
· What about the default filter? one that the program defaults to whenever you click on something that resets your actual filter
· Reports with a custom starting date (not locked to the first day of the month)?
· Hiding past years transactions we want to keep but not to show? I know I can male a filter but during a session I have to select that filter so many times since the program won't stick at it!
· Asking for a name when you save a new filter?
· Many others...
So that's it for now. I'll keep using V4 as long as it will be supported or until other improvements will get incorporated into the v5xx serie. V5.0.1 is a good step in the right direction and I hope my beloved iCompta will get back in shape with a shiny new suit soon!
Greets,
Ivan
iCompta 5.0.1 - what's left to fix IMHO
Re: iCompta 5.0.1 - what's left to fix IMHO
Another thing: if possible, if I close app in full screen mode, can it be re-opened directly in full screen mode?
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Can you show me a screenshot because there is no font bigger than 14 points anywhere in the interface ??Torakikiii wrote:1) Font size: good thing... the terrible interface made of huge elements I was complaining of during the beta time is partly gone. Partly. You can tame the beast to something more usable, but for some unknown reason I'm stuck with a font size of what? 24 points Helvetica? I understand I might becoming an old man but this is SO HUGE BY NO REASON AND TAKING AWAY A LOT OF SCREEN ESTATE. Sorry no mean to shout, just pretending to show how (still) terrible that font size is. I have a 20" monitor so it looks awesomely huge.
During the beta I suggested giving people the choice to set their font size for the transaction list interface (try opening Textedit, write&select a random text then hit Apple + or Apple -...see how cool and easy is to change font size?). No harm for the rest of interface, text just flows. It would let me see *so many more* transactions. If not that, a simple entry in the prefs and deal.
Edit panel will be changed soon.Torakikiii wrote:2) Edit panel: although my first complain was with the color scheme (grey on black, seriously?) it's still there. Take that ergonomics! That said it still uses a lot of space. I find myself scrolling a lot during editing while I'd absolutely pay 1 euro more for something I can just tab tab away while I edit in a single screen (yes you can tab now, but I still believe this loooong scrollable list is... too long and unfriendly). What about let me rearrange elements or permanently hide sections I don't use (I'm looking at you Links thing!)
This is not the main way to select a given month. The main way (and easiest way) is just to enter the date you want in the show situation field in the bottom toolbar. Moreover you can already change the date quickly with up and down arrows in a date field.Torakikiii wrote:3) Budgets: oh well I have an hate and love relationships with them since the first date during the beta. I so like the new interface (even tho it now scrolls out of my screen...why every thing have to be so gigantastically big on v5?) but I definitely hate the new logic. Anyway I'd kill for two simple buttons (read arrows if you prefer) that would let me jump from a month to another based on the actual selected date so i don't have to open the calendar, scroll and click. Just two easy arrows, left and right. 5 mins of work, I suggest we start a kickstarter project and get it funded
This is not possible because different categories can have different frequencies in a single budget.Torakikiii wrote:I also miss the past balances list! It let me quickly view if I had been a good boy or not with a deadly simple but perfect list made of green or red dots! I want it back so badly! Seriously this time, it was very useful for me.
Yes I forgot these ones, will be added in 5.0.2 (except grouping).Torakikiii wrote:· What about a better saved filters management? (grouping, sorting, etc)
· Asking for a name when you save a new filter?
Selecting a save filter serves that purpose in my opinion.Torakikiii wrote:· What about the default filter? one that the program defaults to whenever you click on something that resets your actual filter
You can set a custom starting date in the report window.Torakikiii wrote:· Reports with a custom starting date (not locked to the first day of the month)?
The program resets your filter only when you double click on a budget period, or a pie chart slice, etc so I think this behavior is ok.Torakikiii wrote:· Hiding past years transactions we want to keep but not to show? I know I can male a filter but during a session I have to select that filter so many times since the program won't stick at it!
Make sure this is unchecked :matte.car wrote:Another thing: if possible, if I close app in full screen mode, can it be re-opened directly in full screen mode?
Re: iCompta 5.0.1 - what's left to fix IMHO
WOW ! Thank you!Angeman wrote:Make sure this is unchecked :matte.car wrote:Another thing: if possible, if I close app in full screen mode, can it be re-opened directly in full screen mode?
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There you go! On the left the old beloved iCompta, on the right the shiny new one. Of course I was exaggerating when I wrote 24 points! Still it has to be 1...2 points bigger. Could it be that you use a retina display that has a much bigger resolution of a normal display? I don't know. For sure every 2 rows of old data now you need a single huge row. Would it be possible to think to a preference like "use old font style" so the one who finds it annoying can switch it on or off?Angeman wrote: Can you show me a screenshot because there is no font bigger than 14 points anywhere in the interface ??
Unfortunely the best things you keep them for the french forum but since I can read french (somewhat...) I see you're working on a new side panel and from the screens I saw it looks promising... should be easier to navigate and to read!Angeman wrote:Edit panel will be changed soon.
Just tried... is it me or my mac but with the keyb I can only go forward or backward a day at time? I need to jump from month to month. If I put the cursor on the month part of the date, I hit arrow up, it moves one day forward... Still I'd love to have a simple button or something.Angeman wrote: This is not the main way to select a given month. The main way (and easiest way) is just to enter the date you want in the show situation field in the bottom toolbar. Moreover you can already change the date quickly with up and down arrows in a date field.
Torakikiii wrote:I also miss the past balances list! It let me quickly view if I had been a good boy or not with a deadly simple but perfect list made of green or red dots! I want it back so badly! Seriously this time, it was very useful for me.
R.I.P. useful list! So how to quickly see if I overspent or not on my monthly budgets?Angeman wrote:This is not possible because different categories can have different frequencies in a single budget.
Torakikiii wrote:· What about a better saved filters management? (grouping, sorting, etc)
· Asking for a name when you save a new filter?
Not even a simple drag and drop management like for categories? but anyway let's see what you come up with with 5.0.2Angeman wrote:Yes I forgot these ones, will be added in 5.0.2 (except grouping).
Torakikiii wrote:· What about the default filter? one that the program defaults to whenever you click on something that resets your actual filter
I agree that V5 saved filters are more resilient than V4 ones.Angeman wrote:Selecting a save filter serves that purpose in my opinion.
I overlooked this, I confirm it works as you says. Anyway every time I change a parameter on the report the list gets reconstructed (ok) but all the items get expanded again. Would you consider presenting the list as collapsed if it was already like that before being regenerated?Angeman wrote:You can set a custom starting date in the report window.
Keep it going. I see you're trying to listen to the main concerns and are refining the V5 serie.
Bonne travaille
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I will lower the font a bit.Torakikiii wrote:For sure every 2 rows of old data now you need a single huge row.
Ok great.Torakikiii wrote:Unfortunely the best things you keep them for the french forum but since I can read french (somewhat...) I see you're working on a new side panel and from the screens I saw it looks promising... should be easier to navigate and to read!
Shift + arrow to change the month and ctrl + arrow to change the year.Torakikiii wrote:Just tried... is it me or my mac but with the keyb I can only go forward or backward a day at time? I need to jump from month to month. If I put the cursor on the month part of the date, I hit arrow up, it moves one day forward... Still I'd love to have a simple button or something.
This is not the same of course, but you can use the propagate check box under the budgets.Torakikiii wrote:R.I.P. useful list! So how to quickly see if I overspent or not on my monthly budgets?
Right click > collapse allTorakikiii wrote:I overlooked this, I confirm it works as you says. Anyway every time I change a parameter on the report the list gets reconstructed (ok) but all the items get expanded again. Would you consider presenting the list as collapsed if it was already like that before being regenerated?
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Is possible to bring up right column only when necessary (when creating and modifying transitions) and make it disappear automatically when finished?
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Yes maybe if other people request it as well.
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...and can you add a Spotlight icon please ?