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Re: Balance Evolution Graphic

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You can double the X axis as well so it will be larger and you will see the dates.
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Angeman wrote:You can double the X axis as well so it will be larger and you will see the dates.
No, sorry. I tried double clicking everywhere on the X axis. At the bottom, the middle, the top... no-where it will zoom and show dates.

Anyway, what I meant was to always show dates corresponding to the vertical lines, to get an idea of what moment in time the bars correspond to.
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Re: Balance Evolution Graphic

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i find that zooming out is slightly awkward, and unintuitive...
- the alt+double-click was a surprise — maybe allow alt or command + single click so it's easier to find? (since those otherwise do nothing)
- second, if you hold alt and repeatedly double-click it doesn't 'unzoom' more than once — you have to either wait a second between double-clicks or move the mouse between double-clicks
- third, when zooming out i usually just want to zoom all the way out, so would suggest any zoom-out action goes all the way out

also, another possibly useful zoom-related feature:
- click & drag across the actual graph to zoom in on a specific part of it (either by plain zooming or setting start/end dates)
- personally i'd only really want to be selecting across the X-axis (i.e. drag/highlight a horizontal section), with Y-axis automatically updating to fit the zoomed data
- may require an easy way to reset the start/end dates after having zoomed
- ideally the start/end dates would also link to the filter start/end dates, so you can drag across a spike or step in the graph to see what it is (or likewise filter your transactions and see the graph that matches those transactions)
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Re: Balance Evolution Graphic

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Thanks for the screenshots, but that's exactly where I tried double clicking first... and i just tried again.
It does not work! On my icompta 5.1 there is not even the horizontal line, nor any text on any X-axis :(

Furthermore, I agree with drfrogsplat. The zooming is not very intuitive at all.
I would do it in a similar way as it is done on other applications (e.g. gimp, photoshop, google chrome, word etc.) instead of inventing another 'standard':
- ctrl+ to zoom in / ctrl- to zoom out
- and scroll mouse forward = zoom in / scroll-mouse backward = zoom out
- +1 for "click & drag across the actual graph to zoom in on a specific part of it (either by plain zooming or setting start/end dates)"
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Dwarf007 wrote:Thanks for the screenshots, but that's exactly where I tried double clicking first... and i just tried again.
It does not work! On my icompta 5.1 there is not even the horizontal line, nor any text on any X-axis
Can you show me a screenshot ?
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Angeman wrote:Can you show me a screenshot ?
attached below.
By the way, I know that this is a Bar diagram, but I would expect the look&feel and GUI interactions to be consistent on all these graphics.

Furthermore, as mentioned in posts above. On this screenshot you can see that not all data is shown. I would have to scroll to the right or (if it was possible) to un-zoom further.
However, I already alt+clicked on the Y-Axis and this is the maximum zoom-out (while not all data is shown).
Would it therefore also be possible to allow a complete zoom-out to see all data?

Another point for better ergonomy (since I just tested this zoom-in/zoom-out on the evolution graphic under an account), it would also be nice if the zoom would take place centered-on the date reference where you double click, rather than zoom-in/zooming-out to some other point in time.
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Re: Balance Evolution Graphic

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Will our feedback/requests be added to the todo list? :)
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one more thing to add, it'd be good if the vertical & horizontal axes remained visible when you zoom in

i.e. rather than treat it like a picture that i'm zooming in on, treat it like a cut-down view-port to see a section of the graph, if that makes sense?

there's probably a few ways to achieve this, e.g. having the data extend with transparency past/under the axes/border when you've zoomed in, so you can sort of see there's more data if you scroll around, but can still clearly read the axes

as it stands right now, if you zoom in on either/both axes you can quickly lose track of where you are on either axis, and the data becomes meaningless when you lose the axes
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Thank you both for your feedback, I've taken goof note of it.
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